Saturday, May 17, 2025

Have you ever studied Noah's Flood?

You may have seen the documentary Noah's Ark - The Real Story with Jeremy Bowen from 2004.

https://youtu.be/fjBv29FUiv8

 

Jeremy Francis John Bowen (b. 1960) is a Welsh journalist who was born in Cardiff.  His presentation was very slanted against the truth of Noah's Flood.[1]  He should take a trip to the Ark Encounter in Kentucky (Ozzy did).

https://arkencounter.com

 

Bowen's story mentions the ocean floor (@ 10:40):

https://youtu.be/fjBv29FUiv8


The ocean floor in many places is covered with Manganese (Mn) nodules which are somewhat like pearls and grow from small bits of basalt, pumice, shark teeth or clay.  The measured growth rates of these nodules indicate an age of only thousands of years.[2]  So, the oceans as we see them today are young.

 

Bowen seems to completely overlook the fact that the Lord brought the animals to Noah via instinct, Providence or direct miracle (cf. Gen. 6:20; 7:8,9,15).

https://www.icr.org/article/how-did-noah-gather-animals

 

The program claims that 30M species must have been on the Ark.  The *kinds* of animals and plants we find on Earth is a much broader category than Species and is often at the Family level.  I tag the Genesis Kinds (baramin) as Essential Types of Life (ETL's).  My book Biological Essentialism takes on that very subject.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w?ean=9781668541234

 

With this understanding that Kinds (ETL's) are not always equivalent to "specie," how many animals were on Noah's Ark?  Some estimates range from 6,744 animals to 16K.

https://arkencounter.com/animals/how-many/

https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/species-and-kinds-and-the-ark/

 

Noah's Ark - The Real Story claims that there is not enough water to cover the planet.  In contrast, let's ask Marilyn vos Savant (born in St. Louis) who has been the Guinness Book of World Records record holder for the highest IQ.  She said that, "If the Earth were smooth, all the land would be covered with seawater to a depth of about 8,810 feet ..."  In addition, Mars may have had a global deluge to a depth of a kilometer.[3] 

 

David V. Jebson lists seven key reasons why the Deluge must have been universal:

https://www.biblicalcreation.org.uk/biblical_studies/bcs044.html

 

A number of scholars have gone deep in their research on Flood Legends. 

My copy of Folklore in the Old Testament by Sir James Frazer (d. 1941) is over 100 years old!  It has 65 pages of Flood traditions.  He admits that academics of the past concluded from this historical evidence,  

 

... that such a catastrophe actually occurred, that we have a full and authentic record of it in the Book of Genesis, and that the many legends of a great flood which we find scattered so widely among mankind embody the more or less imperfect, confused, and distorted reminiscences of that tremendous cataclysm.[4]


Explorer and Painter George Catlin (d. 1872) shared this bold revelation:

 

The calamity which their [Flood] traditions say once befell them, destroying the whole human race, excepting one man, who landed from his canoe on a high mountain in the West. This tradition, however, was not peculiar to the Mandan tribe, for amongst one hundred and twenty different tribes that I have visited in North and South and Central America, not a tribe exists that has not related to me distinct or vague traditions of such a calamity, in which one, or three, or eight persons were saved above the waters.

https://creationism.org/books/FrazerFolkloreOT/FrazerFolkloreOT_0.htm

Wilhelm Wundt (d. 1920), who grew up as a Lutheran, in his Elements Of Folk Psychology claimed that Egypt has no Flood Legend (p. 392):

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/44138/44138-h/44138-h.htm#THE_ART_OF_THE_HEROIC_AGE

 

In truth, he was sadly mistaken and the saga continues ... deluge sagas (Sintflutsagen):

 

One "flood myth" in Egyptian mythology involves the god Ra and his daughter Sekhmet.  Ra sent Sekhmet to destroy part of humanity for their disrespect and unfaithfulness which resulted in the gods overturning wine jugs to simulate a great flood of blood, so that by getting her drunk on the wine and causing her to pass out her slaughter would cease.  This is commemorated in a wine drinking festival during the annual Nile flood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths


What do we make of all these Flood traditions? Dr. Johannes Riem in Die Sintflut in Sage und Wissenschaft (The Deluge in Legend and Science) provided this analysis:

 

Among all traditions there is none so general, so widespread on earth, and so apt to show what may develop from the same material according to the varying spiritual character of a people as the Flood tradition. Lengthy and thorough discussions with Dr. Kunike have convinced me of the evident correctness of his position that the fact of the Deluge is granted because at the basis of all myths, particularly nature myths, there is a real fact, but that during a subsequent period the material was given its present mythical character and form.[5]

 

Francis Collins seems to be oblivious to the overwhelming evidence for the Global Flood (2 Pet. 3:5, see below ↓).  You may have seen Francis Collins rocking out @ a recent protest in DC:

https://youtu.be/zYSyMmfy5hY

 

Collins founded #BioLogos and in 2017 IVP put out a dialog/discussion style book titled Old-Earth or Evolutionary Creation? ... that is #TheoEvo

Hugh Ross & his #cru provide the other side of the coin in this "debate." Ross began his career at the age of 7 when he went to the Library to discover why stars are hot! ✳✺

https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/speakers/400232/Hugh-Ross

 

Hugh Ross is not to be confused with the Scottish actor (Patriot Games) with the same name:  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Ross_(actor)

 

It's a real tragedy that Old-Earth or Evolutionary Creation? gives so little attention to the Biblical, Historical and scientific evidence for the Global Flood.

https://www.amazon.com/Global-Flood-Unlocking-Hardcover-Institute/dp/1935587129


The bibliography does include Henry Morris' The Long War Against God: The History and Impact of the Creation/Evolution Conflict (Fwd. by David Jeremiah!). It also has Kurt Wise' fine defense of the reality of Noah's Flood: Faith Form & Time.  

 

Ovid's version of the Flood (@ 5:23):

https://youtu.be/ezdBeGnJSMc

 

The Babylonian account of Atrahasis (Noah) states that the Ark was a kuphar (kuffah, quffa), which was a large round boat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuphar#Biblical_significance

 

Such a vessel would not be seaworthy.  This shows that superiority of the Genesis record compared to the Flood Legends of the Ancient Near East.

The Epic of Gilgamesh states that the Ark was a cube! 

 

I want you to recall both the predictions foretold by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles.  Above all, understand this: In the last days blatant scoffers will come, being propelled by their own evil urges and saying, “Where is his promised return?  For ever since our ancestors died, all things have continued as they were from the beginning of creation.”  For they deliberately suppress this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by means of water.  Through these things the world existing at that time was destroyed when it was deluged with water.  But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been reserved for fire, by being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. (2 Peter 3:2-7, NET)

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; ... then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment. (2 Pet. 2:4,5,9)

 

Bibliography on Noah's Flood:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/noah-and-the-flood-in-western-thought/bibliography/2F808B0E126EA79AE732C0EFB98A6338

 

From the Biblical Archaeology Review (BAR):

https://library.biblicalarchaeology.org/collections/noah-and-genesis-flood/

 

Noah & the Ark (Chabad.org):

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/246609/jewish/The-Story-of-Noah-and-the-Ark-in-the-Bible.htm

 

Two items from Britanninca (Noah & Flood Myths):

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Noah

https://www.britannica.com/topic/flood-myth

 

my site: https://totalyouth.us/

 

What do you know about the Diluvial Theory?

https://www.encyclopedia.com/science/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/diluvialism

https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-90-481-2642-2_605

 

Review of Riem's book (in German):

https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/item/OAQAY6AXVN3GTRNCRPORV3FIY37YR4NG

 

** kudos - graphic source:

https://www.craiyon.com/image/_G03RLJMQ_S2zDp3HlWcnw

 

Notes:

1) "Demolishing a Straw Ark: the BBC's Noah's Ark Fiasco" by Paul Garner, Origins 40,  Feb. 2005, pp. 16,17.

2) Is a Young Earth Possible? by Jay Hall (iCAT: Institute for Catastrophism & Tectonics, Big Spring, TX, 2019), pp. 66-68.

https://www.amazon.com/Young-Earth-Possible-Science-Youthful/dp/1088860788/

3) YES - Young Earth Science by Jay Hall (IDEAS: Intelligent Defense of Evolution Alternatives through Science, Big Spring, TX, 2014), pp. 96,97.

https://www.amazon.com/YES-WorldView-Fallacies-Darwinism-2014-11-14/dp/B01K3RF10I

4) Folklore in the Old Testament by James Frazer (Tudor Pub., NYC, 1923, abridged ed.), p. 135.

https://www.amazon.com/Folklore-Old-Testament-Comparative-Religion/dp/0517672510

Here is the unabridged version of Volume 1, see Chapter IV: The Great Flood, p. 104:  

https://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/e-books/frazer/folk-lore_in_the_ot_frazer_vol01.pdf

5) quoted in The Flood by Alfred Rehwinkel (Concordia, St. Louis, 1951), p. 129.

 

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