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Tuesday, August 25, 2026

Young Earth Today 2034 – Pioneers of Geology

No, we don't have two thousand episodes yet... we named our episode from FEB 2022, Young Earth Today 2024 in honor of the Total Solar Eclipse.  This reminds us of the fantastic film, The Privileged Planet, which also has a book version.   

https://youtu.be/m76XfpLnYm0?list=PLbffU3foCZmaIKcM3yn9ki_0B4KBBW_Wc

Today, in Young Earth Today 2034, we’re going to tag our comments off of  Pioneers of Geology: Discovering Earth's Secrets by Margaret Carruthers & Susan Maloney Clinton:

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneers-Geology-Discovering-Secrets-Science/dp/0531113647

 

The book highlights James Hutton, Charles Lyell, G.K. Gilbert, Alfred “Got Drift” Wegener, Harry Hess, and Gene Shoemaker of Shoemaker-Levy 9 fame.  Carruthers has an M.S. in Geology and worked for the American Museum of Natural History in New York.  Clinton has a Doctorate in English and lives in New Jersey.  This tome came from Franklin Watts which is a division of Scholastic.  The folks @ Scholastic do some fine work, here’s their study guide for A Wrinkle in Time (which is significantly more profound than the film):

https://www.scholastic.com/content/dam/teachers/activities/migrated-files-in-body/a-wrinkle-in-time-bookfile.pdf

 

On page 7 of Pioneers of Geology, in the Intro, we read …

 

Different cultures had different stories about Earth's origin and its features land and sea; mountains and rivers.  In the Western World, the Bible was the most important source of ideas about Earth. Right up until the nineteenth century, people believed in an unchanging Earth that was about six thousand years old.

Actually (speaking of Actualism), different cultures had the same story.  For example, the hundreds of Flood Legends from around the globe:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8hc4JZTvmVg/maxresdefault.jpg

Not exactly “an unchanging Earth”!

 

Even non-creationists admit to the global tales of the Babel dispersion:

https://visionariaapp.com/blogs/tower-of-babel-myth-of-languages

The Mikirs, of Tibet & Burma, say that long ago the descendants of Ram were mighty men and aspired to conquer heaven.  So, they built a tower to reach the sky.  The gods and demons feared lest these giants should become the masters of heaven, as they already were of earth.  They confounded their speech and scattered them to the four corners of the Earth.  This explains the origin of the various human languages.   

(Folklore in the Old Testament – Frazer, p. 150)

https://creationism.org/books/FrazerFolkloreOT/FrazerFolkloreOT_5.htm

There is a growing geomythology trend connecting ethnic traditions and actual geologic events.  A number of accounts of geological events (eruptions, earthquakes etc.) may be found in various myths throughout the world.  There is even an entire book on the subject published by the Geological Society of London.

(Is a Young Earth Possible? by Jay Hall, pp. 13-16)

https://www.amazon.com/Young-Earth-Possible-Science-Youthful/dp/1088860788/

 

Nathan Jeanson (Ph.D. Cell Biology – Harvard) has demonstrated in his book TRACED that cultural traditions and genetics supports the “Genesis 5-11” chronology (humanity is just thousands of years old).  If Mainstream (Legacy) Science is wrong about the Age of Man, then maybe they’re off on dating the Earth too.

https://www.amazon.com/Traced-Human-DNAs-Big-Surprise/dp/1683442911

 

The sages of old had some odd geological theories.  Aristotle held that subterranean winds fan the flames of underground fires.  These violent winds in compressed spaces produce shockwaves (EQ’s) and occasionally this inferno bursts forth in a fiery explosion (volcanism).

https://www.academia.edu/37071563/playing_the_volcano_prometheus_bound_and_fifth_century_volcanic_theory

 

Now we go back to Pioneers of Geology.  On pages 13-16 Carruthers details Hutton’s interest in granite.  It has long been assumed that granites take millions of years to form, but Dr. Tas Walker provides a corrective:

 

So how long does it take for magma to ascend 20 km in the crust? With typical magma and crust properties it could be anywhere between five hours and three months. Clemens says [ in a paper from the Proceedings of the Geologists’ Association in 2005]:

“Such rapid ascent rates are clearly negligible on the scale of geological time. This would make granitic magma ascent effectively an instantaneous process …”

What sort of time would it take to build a huge pluton? According to Clemens, a dyke 3 m wide and 1 km long … could build a batholith of 1,000 km^3 in 1,200 years.

https://creation.com/en/articles/granite-formation-catastrophic-in-its-suddenness

 

This timescale could even be shortened with variations in dyke dimensions, magma viscosity and fluid content.  During ascent magma viscosity can go lower (due to resorption).  Thus, rising magmas can potentially accelerate rather than slow down!

 

On page 16, Carruthers claims that Hutton said the Earth was millions of years old.  This is #Fake_News

https://chatgpt.com/c/6a8baf51-ed60-83ea-8c09-97a69e2a12d9

Sadly, Hutton’s father died when he was three years old (p. 17).  Are you aware of the book Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism

by Paul Vitz?  In the book’s description, we read this:

 

A biographical survey of influential atheists of the past four centuries shows that this "defective father hypothesis" provides a consistent explanation of the "intense atheism" of these thinkers.  A survey of the leading defenders of Christianity over the same period confirms the hypothesis, finding few defective fathers.

https://www.amazon.com/Faith-Fatherless-Psychology-Paul-Vitz/dp/1586176870

 

On page 18 of Pioneers of Geology, Hutton observes folded rock layers.  Soft-sediment deformation actually confirms the Global Flood! 

https://answersresearchjournal.org/geology/carbon-canyon-fold-arizona/

 

Aussie Geologist, Dr. Andrew Snelling (Earth’s Catastrophic Past) sought permission to collect 53 rock samples from the Grand Canyon.  He had to file a lawsuit to get the approval.  He filed the suit in 2013 and finally got his research OK’d in 2017 due to the influence of #TRiUMPh

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/07/03/a-young-earth-creationist-just-sued-the-grand-canyon-over-religious-discrimination-and-won/

James Hutton never married.  Hutton’s illegitimate son, James Smeaton Hutton was a post-office clerk in London and had five children.  His father gave him financial assistance, but apparently, they never met.

https://james-hutton.org/james-hutton/the-person/

 

There is also a James Hutton who was a leader in the Moravian Church who died in 1795.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hutton-4296

James Hutton the Geologist died in 1797 (go figure!).

 

Hutton claimed that the layers on the ocean bottom today will become the sedimentary rocks of tomorrow:

 

We are led to conclude that all the strata of the earth have had their origin at the bottom of sea by collection of sand and gravel, of shells, and of earths and clays… consolidating those collections in various degrees and either elevating those consolidated masses or lowering the level of that sea.

https://james-hutton.org/james-hutton/the-geologist/

 

But what if the 7 Seas are truly young?  The ocean floor in many places is covered with Manganese (Mn) nodules which are somewhat like pearls and grow from small bits of basalt, pumice, shark teeth or clay.  The measured growth rates of these nodules indicate an age of only thousands of years.

(Is a Young Earth Possible? by Jay Hall, pp. 66-68)

https://www.amazon.com/Young-Earth-Possible-Science-Youthful/dp/1088860788/

Jack Repcheck, author of The Man Who Found Time: James Hutton and the Discovery of the Earth's Antiquity, admitted that in the late 1700’s,  

 

The Scottish Presbyterian Church, the English Anglican Church, the Lutheran Church and the Catholic Church - indeed, all Christian churches, their clergies, and their followers - believed that the earth was not even 6,000 years old.  This belief was a tenet based on rigorous analysis of the Bible and other holy scriptures.  It was not just the devout who embraced this belief; most men of science agreed that the earth was young.

https://creation.com/en/articles/book-review-man-who-found-time

 

Although often overlooked, Hutton did realize that there had to be an ultimate beginning [beg …

 

As there is not in human observation proper means for measuring the waste of land upon the globe, it is hence inferred that we cannot estimate the duration of what we see at present, nor calculate the period at which it had begun.

https://creation.com/en/articles/book-review-man-who-found-time

 

Hutton did not speak of Millions Of Year Ago #MOYA

Rather he guessed that, “Since deposits usually settle at a modest rate, perhaps only an inch a year, it took hundreds of thousands of years for enough sediment to build up…”

Hutton did not live long enough to see the Turbidite Revolution.  Turbidity currents form deposits rapidly and are often 6m thick with some up to 12m.

https://chatgpt.com/c/6a8ce954-f038-83ea-9f7e-e95beefda718

 

Turbidites 101:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/turbidite

 

Here is my paper on Hutton’s view of biological stasis and how that relates to #Catastrophism and a Young Earth:

https://app.box.com/s/d3mt6h3tizsb80bo7zfof80ygujtmjwy

So much for the “Founder of Modern Geology.” … Maybe we should go back to Aristotle.

 

Our Creation Study (via Midwest Christian Outreach) – 10 episodes!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJdelscNsYMszOH6dhLx4-CRMqGKfU6-z

 

my site: https://totalyouth.us/

 

But ask the animals, and they will teach you,

    or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;

or SPEAK TO THE EARTH, and it will teach you,

    or let the fish in the sea inform you.

Which of all these does not know

    that the hand of the Lord has done this?

In his hand is the life of every creature

    and the breath of all mankind.

Does not the ear test words

    as the tongue tastes food?

Is not wisdom found among the aged?

    Does not long life bring understanding?

      (Job 12:7-12)

 

** kudos – graphic sources:

https://chatgpt.com/c/6a8dc458-d4e0-83ea-96f3-1bc37353bf8f

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8hc4JZTvmVg/maxresdefault.jpg

https://lnkd.in/p/g4sEnBJ2

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/The_memorial_to_James_Hutton_at_his_grave_in_Greyfriars_Kirkyard.JPG/960px-The_memorial_to_James_Hutton_at_his_grave_in_Greyfriars_Kirkyard.JPG

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Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Dub Step Earth & the Rise of Rapid Plate Movements (RPM's)

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Do you feel the drift?  Is it possible for continental drift to happen much faster than most allow?  Hear our groundbreaking podcast here (iTunes users  here).  Richard Moody who has a Masters degree in Geology (SUNY - Albany) believes that plates may move fast, up to 100 times current rates (~4cm/yr.).*  We call this Rapid Plate Movements (RPM's).

Pioneer continental drift advocate Alfred Lothar Wegener (d. 1930) had a Ph.D. in Astronomy (University of Berlin) and assumed that Europe and North America were quite close to each other during the ice age.  Given the mainstream date that the ice age ended 10K years ago, that comes out to plate movements of 1,500 feet each year!  RPM indeed.

James Head  in a paper in Nature, proposes that there was a great flood on Venus and that it has experienced “rapid plate tectonics.”  Could the same RPM’s have occurred on Earth?

Charles Hapgood who wrote Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings advocated catastrophic pole shifts for the Earth.  Hapgood’s work was the basis for the disaster film 2012 directed by Roland Emmerich.  Even Stephen Jay Gould suggested that this theory deserves a fair hearing and should not be dismissed out of hand.  Can the pole shift idea be rehabilitated by combining it with plate tectonics?  Albert Einstein wrote the Foreword to Hapgood’s book on pole shift and met him in 1955.

The New Yorker in 2015 had an article on how the Cascadia plate is likely to move coastal Washington and Oregon about 100 feet in just minutes.  Seattle and Portland could be destroyed.  The likely 9.2 magnitude earthquake could be coming to the Pacific Northwest soon.  Shepard Smith (FOX) dealt with this eminent danger in an interview with Michio Kaku.   

Can you move as fast as Bruce Lee?  Can you move as quick as the earth?  Richard Oldham was a British geologist who was the first to distinguish P-waves, S-waves and surface waves.  His report on the 1897 Assam earthquake described the Chedrang fault, with uplift up to 35 feet and ground movements greater than Earth's own gravitational acceleration.  Some ruptures may move as fast as 13K mph!

In the scifi film JapanSinks, the reality of Rapid Plate Movements (RPM's) was presented with great dramatic style.  It was long thought that many geologic features took a long time to form.  Now it is generally regarded that most strata were made in a rapid, catastrophic fashion, such as turbidites.  Why has the catastrophic paradigm not been applied to plate tectonics?  Go RPM's!


*much of the material for this post is from YES - Young Earth Science, ch. 6,
be sure to visit our podcast page >> YES - Young Earth Podcast 

Saturday, June 27, 2015

Earth Shift

It is generally thought that continental drift is a slow process.  However, Alfred Wegener (d. 1930), the Father of Continental Drift, concluded that North America and Europe were moving apart from each other at 2.5 m per year! [1]  Could Rapid Plate Movements (RPM’s) fit into a more concentrated earth history and support Young Earth Science (YES)?

Consider the recent earthquake in Nepal (April 26, 2015).  The earth shifted vertically by 3 feet!  A region 75 miles by 30 miles was lifted upward according to geophysicist Tim Wright (Univ. of Leeds, UK).

It is estimated that Kathmandu moved 10 ft to the South!  Even more astonishing was Japan's Tohoku earthquake (EQ) which had plate movements of 50 meters‼  The largest earthquake in the Himalayas hit Assam in 1950 and displaced the land by 30 m.
A disaster film actually depicts the catastrophic shifting of tectonic plates which dooms Japan - Japan Sinks (2006, Nihon Chinbotsu).  This is scifi, but it is based on real science.  You can see clips from the movie here (w/ English subtitles).  According to Atsushi Utsunomiya et al, “A collapsed megalith accelerates a single-layered convection at a whole mantle scale.” [2]  Delamination was another process suggested for RPM.
To learn more about this topic, get YES – Young Earth Science where there is a whole chapter on Rapid Plate Movements (RPM’s).

Notes:
1) YES – Young Earth Science by Jay Hall (IDEAS, Big Spring, TX, 2014), p. 148.
2) Superplumes: Beyond Plate Tectonics ed. by David Yuen, Shigenori Maruyama, Shun-ichiro Karato and Brian Windley (Springer, 2007 ed., 2014), p. 396, emphasis added.