The Choctaw Connection

Have you read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee?  Are you familiar with the Trail of Tears?  In the early 1830's, around 125K Native Americans were forced to flee their homelands in Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina and Florida and travel to Oklahoma (Indian Territory).  Many died along the way.  The Choctaw, along with a number of other Native American tribes, have tales of a Great Flood that occurred just thousands of years ago.  A poem I wrote is based on the Choctaw tale.  I highlight a number of Flood Legends in my latest book Is a Young Earth Possible? and include the Choctaw version. [1]

Sir James Frazer (d. 1941) was an anthropologist, folklorist and classical scholar.  His lengthy work The Golden Bough: A Study in Comparative Religion compares aboriginal traditions from around the world.  I saw a pristine set at a bookstore in Las Vegas a few years ago (Bauman Rare Books).  A used set may run you around $500.  Regarding the origin of such disaster stories, Frazer rightly admits that,

 

The old answer to the question was that such a catastrophe actually occurred, that we have a full and authentic record of it in the Book of Genesis, and that the many legends of a great flood which we find scattered so widely among mankind embody the more or less imperfect, confused, and distorted reminiscences of that tremendous cataclysm. [2]

 

Vine Deloria (d. 2005) was a Native American historian and activist from the Yankton Sioux tribe of South Dakota.  He wrote dozens of books and hundreds of articles and testified before Congress and even the U.S. Supreme Court.  Many geologists hold that a giant rock hit the earth and killed off the dinos.  Could such an event explain great catastrophe of the past?  Deloria explains:

 

But suppose that a major fly-by had occurred within the time period of interest to these scholars, raising the Cascades and Andes, shifting the Alps eastward and tilting them, or creating the Himalayas?  Much of what we regard as geological knowledge would have to be radically revised in favor of a drastically shortened chronology of Earth history. ... Traditional stories about the world ending with massive floods and fires are not taken seriously because we have been taught to believe that no forces more powerful than those we can presently observe have ever been active on the planet. [3]

 

Deloria challenged the reliability of radiometric dating and Deep Time. [4]  We defend Catastrophism in our two most recent works YES - Young Earth Science and Is a Young EarthPossible?  Check out this cool pro-YES t-shirt.

Here we see Choctaw Chief Pushmataha (d. 1824, Wash. DC), who is considered by many as the greatest of all Choctaw chiefs.  He fought in the War of 1812 and rests in the Congressional Cemetery (Wash. DC).  I am a proud member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma.

 

 

Notes:

1) Is a Young EarthPossible? by Jay Hall (Institute for Catastrophism and Tectonics - iCAT, Big Spring, TX, 2019), pp. 239-243.

2) Folklore in the Old Testament by Sir James Frazer (Tudor Pub. Co., NYC, 1923), p. 135.

3) Evolution, Creationism and Other Modern Myths by Vine Deloria (Fulcrum Pub., Golden, CO, 2002), p. 110.

4) Hall (note 1), pp. 110-112.

 

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Please Don't Dis My Tribe (ice-j)

Look inside of my soul and you can find the old memories of life

Look inside of your soul and you can find truth is for real

I can see the changes

I can feel a bold life

I always knew life could be strangerous

I can say that I like a challenge and it won't be painless

Do you know what truth is?

How can I tell this story?

When the bias blind is hanging with ya

Fell on my face and I just saw stars

Another Zeitgeist living way in my heart

Thought the earth was old, saw it in a flick

Native Americans shared the news for years

Just don't resent what I'm making of this

Old Gov Wilkinson heard the facts

Yellowstone is live and really rocks!

Big Geo says 70K, but that's a crock

Trending young earth changes

YES, Young Earth Science is just gonna be famous

Our lovely planet did not go through a billion stages

For me that's amazing

That's no blank check, with all due respect take time and hear this

I am a winner

YES, Young Earth Science wins again

Please forgive me

Just learn with me

Stuff I don't understand

Knowledge don't stand alone

Please don't dis my tribe (2x)

I can feel the energy of our planet that sways

I got my drink I got my music I will share it but today I'm yelling

Please don't dis my tribe (4x)

The Great Spirit sent a prophet to the good world he made

Man's evil and corruption was way whack and did not fade

Then the darkness came fast, yeah

The deluge hit the world, total flood on the earth on multiple axles

Oka Falamah and the people doomed

I know what you're scared of, returning waters - no escape

This fact is vital, so watch it now

This truth's revival, tell it like it was

A raft of sassafras logs kept the true prophet afloat

It's way more believable - be very sure to take note

Big bird was circlin' around

He then cried out for help - no, there was none to be found

a little blue bird showed the way to dry land

strong winds led the way - let all understand

the beautiful bird - named Puchi Yushuba

Now there came the changes

I can feel the new world's joy - now Puchi is famous

As the mother of all who've gone through many stages

To me that's amazing

That's no blank check, with all due respect take time and hear this ♫

This is based on the ancient Choctaw legend of the Great Flood.  Our book, YES- Young Earth Science, contains numerous examples of where Native American tradition, indigenous accounts and mythical records contradict mainstream geology.

Native Americans told James Wilkinson governor of Louisiana Territory in the early 1800's that a volcano was in the Yellowstone area.  The last lava flow was supposedly around 70,000 BC by generally accepted dating. [1]

The book Myth and Geology was published by the Geological Society of London which is the oldest geological society in the world.  Earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions and cosmic impacts are described in myths from around the world.  That is, they refer to real events.  The epic of Gilgamesh is just one account of the Great Flood - there are hundreds of such historical recollections from around the world.

ice-j is a member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma.

Note:

1) YES - Young Earth Science by Jay Hall (IDEAS, Big Spring, TX, 2014), p. 30.

graphics:

adapted from "Tatonka Thunder" - StephenMcCullough

adapted from "Heelema" - J. Dylan Cavin

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